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Every week Joaquin Ruano devotes about 15-20 hours to filling. Kiniela. 1X2 has been a part of his life since his father reached an “impressive 13” almost 60 years ago. Since then, his smart play has brought several joys to the club. Pandora’s Box. The oldest over 1.2 million euros in the 08–09 season after a bet of 3334. This is the voice of experience: “I’m 70 years old and I’ve been doing this for 55 years.”
Carles Agullo, founder of the club Swimming poolsalchemy in mathematics, not in a daily ticket: “I will not change a single comma in the algorithm that gives me the combination that we play in the club”. In his more than 160 videos on YouTube and other platforms, he warns that they will only win two times out of ten. One of them arrived recently, the plenary session on the 15th in early November raised more than 400,000 euros.noted with champagne emoticons on his Telegram channel.
Ruano and Agullo are opposites in their methods, but they both share a passion for the game, which has declined due to the proliferation of bookmakers. Between 2008 and 2024, La Quiniela’s average weekly collection dropped by almost 80%.: from almost ten million euros in the 08-09 season to 2.2 last year, according to data provided to Relevo by State Lotteries and Betting after an access to public information request. In the 24-25 season, until October, it averaged barely more than two million. The average bet has passed from almost 20 million to less than three million over the same period. Loterías y Apuestas del Estado did not respond to several requests from Relevo to include its views in this report.
“There are far fewer clubs, and those that exist play less,” explains Eduardo Losilla.. His family were pioneers in the creation of Quinnielist clubs, and he went even further: Through his website (eduardolosilla.es), he created a national directory of clubs, democratized the calculation of combinations with a free computer program and simplified procedures. to cliffs like Ruano and Agullo. Now you see that things are not the same as before. “Not only are there more lotteries today, but La Quiniela has a lot more sports betting where you bet money just on the match, the result or who scores a goal,” he says.
Ruano makes it clear: “Booking houses do a lot of harm to the clientele.” “You see the tickets they send to management every week and they all have to throw them away. People don’t play,” he continues. For the founder Pandora’s Boxthis game is now “the result of outdated and outdated systems.” “Quinyela is in JVI,” he says.
The Impact of Online Betting
Losilla shows in her own words the change in habits. with bookmakers: “If there is a match today, I take out my mobile phone, place a bet that one or the other will win, and start here and end here.” According to him, this has consequences in the sense that “the tension of the moment and the illusion are controlled over time.”. According to the manager, the social part is also changing: “Previously, with La Quiniela, you could get together with people on the weekend to monitor the results, because you already had a ticket filled. Now with sports betting you can get together with people.” place your bet at that moment.”
In 2011-2012 Fans’ spending at bookmakers slightly exceeded Quiniela’s spending (15.43% of total football spending compared to 13.18%)This is according to a KPMG report on the socio-economic impact of professional football. Ten years later, the difference is stark: almost half of their money is spent on online betting (42.92%), while they spend only 2% (2.28%) on Quiniela.
The calendar also has a negative impact on Ruano. “People on the street are going crazy,” he said, because of the way matches on certain days are spread out throughout the week.. According to Losilla, this affects emotions: “Because the matches are generally unbalanced, you don’t have chances open only for a short period of time, but rather they are spread out over three days, and if the match falls on Saturday. At noon they have already taken away your hope for the rest of the days.”
Pool players also name other reasons for the fall. “A lot of people want to be right more than they want to win, and those two things don’t always go hand in hand,” Agullo says.. “In a lottery, you can get ten or even 11 correct results and earn nothing, because so many people have matched the marks that the distribution of prizes falls below the minimum,” he claims. Those who remain will have to deal with bureaucracy: Losilla complains that prizes worth more than 2,000 euros can now only be obtained from two banks and with notarial authority to do so on behalf of several.
Changes in the plenary session on the 15th
It doesn’t help that getting all 15 correct answers is harder than before.. Until 2014, everything worked the same way as the rest of La Quinela: you had to get the right result (win at home, draw or win away). Starting from the 2014-2015 season, goals must also be scored. This was reflected in the number of correct answers.: The limit since the change is 690 correct answers from 14-15, whereas previously they were in the thousands throughout the season.
“Kinyela has always had pots, but with Match 15 we wanted to encourage there to be more pots because it’s harder to get it right,” says Losilla. Ruano digs into the problem: “They think that if boats are made, more boats will be sold, but that’s not true.because people in the clubs had it better in a different way, when there was 1X2, three options. To win back the result at a plenary meeting with the current 15 – that’s 16 options, much more difficult than three.”
What happens if there’s only one guess, right? There are no major changes in the number of days with one winner, but there is a decrease in amounts due to lower fees.. Losilla, who is also the club’s forecaster. Super15remember how this didn’t happen in 2010: “There was a waiting list. We had 400 clients and there was a time when we didn’t have more because otherwise we would be playing for more money than the prize was worth. We played 200,000 or 300,000 euros a day. “At that time Losilla He asked them for 6,000 euros for cycles of ten games. If I asked them today, the reality would be different.. “We will have 25 clients, not 400,” he says.
From panenkism to mathematics
Carles Agullo, founder Swimming poolsuses expected value, “a calculation of what you can expect to gain or lose on average every time you do something repeatedly,” in his words. Learn these techniques in a study group with other professionals like Daniel Muñoz, founder of Q84 Sports. Muñoz distinguishes two profiles: one “entertaining, especially for older people who operate in a more basic way,” and the other “which comes from sports betting using mathematical hope.”. This supporter essentially works for the bookmakers themselves with AI models.
Both profiles embody two ways of understanding La Quinella and contribute to a stable 3-4% correct response rate over many years. Another thing is that they understand each other.. “If there’s a big, easy pool, he’ll be caught, but if he’s in trouble, I’ll be the one alive,” Ruano credits to the math hope advocate. “They are all forecasters, they know everything about football, but in La Quinel it is not about football, it is about numbers and mistakes,” explains Muñoz. Founder Q84 Sport He sees that there is a “transition” from traditional users to mathematicians, and this forces him to make adjustments to his model.
The average La Quiniela prize (from any winning bet, not just the full 15) has risen from 7.5 euros to more than ten.. This doesn’t mean the same mental strain for Agullo as it does in the bookmakers: “The lottery closes before the matches start and you can’t change anything, it takes the stress away.” For him, the “hot” approach to online betting ends in gambling addiction. According to the founder Swimming pools.
These supporters’ clubs dedicated their lives to scoring points, but the pools also marked their lives.. “I had to send the play from gas stations, in the desert, surrounded by animals, from a catamaran,” Agullo says. “Quiniela takes a part of your life,” Ruano suggests.under the pressure of time, he filled out tickets for strong investors. He will never turn his back on the friends who support him. Pandora’s Box: “As long as I am in this world, my pena will remain there.”