“I don’t know how to answer that.”

-His mother helped his father (Bobby Kennedy, brother of John F. Kennedy, who was also assassinated) investigate the American Mafia as Attorney General. Is there a fight against organized crime today as there was then?

While my father was fighting the Mafia, the FBI was headed by John Edgar Hoover. And he didn’t think the Mafia was a problem. When I was working on union infiltration, we lived in a remote area outside Washington where big trucks drove by, making noise with their wheels, trying to scare us. They also threw acid on the face of a journalist, blinding him, and they told my mother that they were going to do the same to her children. My mother told us to go out and play on the street, so that she could see that we were not afraid. She took my brothers to those Senate hearings.

Today organized crime has increased a lot. There are 200 million children in slavery in the world, most of them used as goods by the mafia. Moreover, drug trafficking is a big problem, which is spreading all over the world.

—He had to go into hiding during the nuclear missile crisis with Cuba in 1962. Are we close to reaching a common geopolitical point?

The army told us that we should hide somewhere safe, but my father told them that what was the point of living if everyone else died. My mother agreed and decided not to hide us. Now the situation is not the same. We had missiles pointing at each other. Do you want me to show you a photo? Sorry for wasting your time.

He turns on his cell phone, which he never leaves on, and starts searching the gallery. After a few minutes he shows an image of himself next to a ballistic missile. «This is a missile to deal with the crisis with Cuba! It is in Kiev, they turned the ships around and now it is in Ukraine. Isn’t it incredible?

—Will the outcome of the election on November 5 change the United States’ approach to its relationship with Russia?

Yes, it is very dangerous. Kamala Harris is in favor of Ukraine, NATO and the European Union. Donald Trump has said that Russia can do whatever it wants. JD Vance (Republican Vice Presidential candidate) has said why we should keep spending money in Ukraine and that’s a green light for Putin. For him to strengthen his position in Georgia, move towards Moldova, Latvia is also on the list, Serbia… I think this is very dangerous for those who are in favor of independence.

-In the election that your uncle (John F. Kennedy) won in 1960, there were allegations of fraud in Chicago. Can the same happen after November 5?

I don’t like that question. Let me tell you what happened in 1960. Republicans announced a portion of the results in advance and then the total. There was no theft of votes. This is a myth that never happened. Now Donald Trump has said that unless he wins, the results will not be valid. Due to this, people across the country have started raising questions on the elections. This is very dangerous for democracy.

– Why should Bilbao establish its own foundation?

This is a good place to peacefully bring about change for justice and human rights. Schools, like Deusto, have also shown interest in this type of curriculum.

-The Basque Country’s past is marked by terrorist violence. How will your student program address this?

Wherever we go, they don’t say that this is a programme. We say, what’s important. We say, what do the students request? We listen first and then act.

-I was surprised that (during the dinner held on Thursday at the Carlton Hotel in Bilbao) you mentioned Morocco in the list of authoritarian regimes. The Spanish government has broken the consensus reached on Western Sahara without informing. What do you think about that?

Because of my experience in Western Sahara, which is an extremely important region for Spain, I think it is important to point out the human rights violations committed by the Moroccan regime against peaceful people. They just want to educate their children in a peaceful manner without any threats.

-Morocco gained access to Pedro Sanchez’s phone number and has since made several concessions to the regime of Mohammed VI. What image does the President of Spain present abroad?

I don’t know how to answer this.